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Price: 0.99 USD
Location: Toccoa, Georgia
End Time: 2024-07-28T19:05:28.000Z
Shipping Cost: 0.69 USD
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Restocking Fee: No
Return shipping will be paid by: Seller
All returns accepted: Returns Accepted
Item must be returned within: 30 Days
Refund will be given as: Money back or replacement (buyer's choice)
Return policy details:
Card Manufacturer: Unknown
Sport: Unknown
Grade: Ungraded
Original/Reprint: Original
Player: Unknown
Team: Unknown
Graded: No
Available Variations
Color: #1 Steve Young - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #28 Warren Moon - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #35 Scott Mitchell - NM-MT
Price: 2.69 USD
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Color: Stargazers #36 Alvin Harper - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #37 Robert Smith - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #39 William Floyd - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #40 Randall Cunningham - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #41 Mario Bates - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #52 Stan Humphries - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #55 Junior Seau - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #58 Lorenzo White - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #83 Todd Collins - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #84 J.J. Stokes - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #98 Kerry Collins - NM-MT
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Color: Stargazers #100 Stoney Case - NM-MT
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